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>> you know, i think paul ryan is a really ambitious guy. i totally agree with lawrence. he's not going to be president. but i think he's going to give it a shot. and it will be interesting to see how far he moves away from the paul ryan that voters came to know and not particularly love of this campaign versus the paul ryan, whoever that is, that he tries to become in the next four years. but i think he's going to be in there. >> stuart stevens who ran the campaign for romney was on television this morning saying he thinks, you know, now that he thinks of it, they should have done a better job trying to reach out to minorities and to women. he thinks maybe reaching out to women in a better way is good. let's take a look at the republican convention and how they reached out to women. >> i love you women! >> so anna marie, what? what did they leave out? what is stewart stevens talking about? >> well, you know, i do feel loved. so that's something. but i don't feel respected or that my needs are met or that my rights are really paid attention to. i think the republican part
>> you know, i think paul ryan is a really ambitious guy. i totally agree with lawrence. he's not going to be president. but i think he's going to give it a shot. and it will be interesting to see how far he moves away from the paul ryan that voters came to know and not particularly love of this campaign versus the paul ryan, whoever that is, that he tries to become in the next four years. but i think he's going to be in there. >> stuart stevens who ran the campaign for romney was...
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the paul ryan budget. because what better to bring good tidings of comfort and joy than balancing tax cuts for the rich on the backs of intitlement cuts for the working poor. mind you, that's actually a healthier reaction than that of mr. boehner's colleague in the senate, mitch mccandle, who repo reportedly laughed at the president's budget. at least he doesn't invoke the civil war. yes, the american civil war, when talking budget cuts. >> it's not just a bad deal. this is really an insulting deal. what geithner offered, what you showed on the screen, robert e. lee was offered easier terms at appomattox and he losted the civil war. >> now, now, now, charles, that's not very christmassy of you. we don't mind if you wrap yourself to the flag, just make sure it's the one with 50 stars on it. dr. james peterson is a contributor to thegrio.com and robert reich is former labor secretary a and a professor and the author of "beyond outrage," now available in paperback. welcome to both of you. dr. peterson, i coul
the paul ryan budget. because what better to bring good tidings of comfort and joy than balancing tax cuts for the rich on the backs of intitlement cuts for the working poor. mind you, that's actually a healthier reaction than that of mr. boehner's colleague in the senate, mitch mccandle, who repo reportedly laughed at the president's budget. at least he doesn't invoke the civil war. yes, the american civil war, when talking budget cuts. >> it's not just a bad deal. this is really an...
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they're wrong to say -- >> i want that paul ryan back. i want that paul ryan back. the guy who we ultimately -- >> you'll get 60 trillion in new debt. >> paul ryan is mr. debt. >> he is. he was a freeze numbers guy. >> he's just joshing you. he understands free market competition can work in health care just like it works in everything else. >> frank lil if we're talking about, okay, it's not so bad to go back to clinton era tax rates, let's go back to the spending. nobody is putting even that on the table. we're talking about pretending if he cut a dollar anywhere, we'll have seniors dying in the streets. frankly i would like the old paul ryan to say talk to me seriously about spending, and i'll go along with the rest of the gop and talk about taxing. >> you tell me if i'm wrong. the republicans -- >> you never have been wrong. >> occasional i'm wrong, but i did save you from going into the administration right in this area, but anyway, you are who you are, and we're glad you're here. obama doesn't want another recession. the idea that pallety murray/chuck schumer
they're wrong to say -- >> i want that paul ryan back. i want that paul ryan back. the guy who we ultimately -- >> you'll get 60 trillion in new debt. >> paul ryan is mr. debt. >> he is. he was a freeze numbers guy. >> he's just joshing you. he understands free market competition can work in health care just like it works in everything else. >> frank lil if we're talking about, okay, it's not so bad to go back to clinton era tax rates, let's go back to the...
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if the american people wanted paul ryan's plan, they would have voted for paul ryan. they didn't. they voted for compromise. and that's not happening. wouldn't the most direct way, the best way would be a counteroffer of some sort? with specifics? >> well, you know, don, i think they have done that. i'm not in the room, so i can't say, you know what they're saying when they close the doors. by the way, you know, what i would love, don, you and i can both promote this idea. all of these negotiations should be in front of the cspan cameras and the cnn cameras, these should not be closed door negotiations. the american people should see what both sides are -- >> then it turns into a theater, though, stephen. >> no, no. look, but what happens now is everybody is -- somebody said this and nobody knows who is being really truthful about what's being offered. i think -- i shoot for transparency. i think this should all be in the sunlight and you would have monster ratings. people would tune in. >> i'm for tran paresparency bu grandstanding. >> i think this is probably going to linger on
if the american people wanted paul ryan's plan, they would have voted for paul ryan. they didn't. they voted for compromise. and that's not happening. wouldn't the most direct way, the best way would be a counteroffer of some sort? with specifics? >> well, you know, don, i think they have done that. i'm not in the room, so i can't say, you know what they're saying when they close the doors. by the way, you know, what i would love, don, you and i can both promote this idea. all of these...
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we had that movie a year and a half ago where paul ryan presented a budget a serious real budget with real cuts, obama was supposed to give a speech in which he would respond with a counteroffer. he gave a speech we had ryan sitting in the front row. he called the ryan proposal unamerican offered nothing and read on a med scare in the next 18 months. they expect republicans are going to do this again? republicans are going to walk on this. >> moving right along to stories you can bank on this morning, have you ever booked a vacation on-line and maybe wondered where all of the fees came from? a new report says you are not alone in the hotels may be to blame. shocker. joining us with more is robert gray. i found it interesting, the phrase, drift pricing? >> drift pricing it drifts over to your bill. resort fees you go to the web site you think i am booking this for x dollars a night and it's 50 percent more according to some reports. it's everything from newspapers to the gym in some cases internet access that will you would take for granted and not even know you are getting charged for
we had that movie a year and a half ago where paul ryan presented a budget a serious real budget with real cuts, obama was supposed to give a speech in which he would respond with a counteroffer. he gave a speech we had ryan sitting in the front row. he called the ryan proposal unamerican offered nothing and read on a med scare in the next 18 months. they expect republicans are going to do this again? republicans are going to walk on this. >> moving right along to stories you can bank on...
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so apparently the whole paul ryan is the devil thing didn't latch on. but what do we do now to keep medicare -- you know, you watch the show. we talk about it all the time. how do we make medicare stronger? how do we keep it going? how do we stop it from bankrupting? >> so i think that there are, as we go forward, there are going to have to be two things that people do. the first thing is we are going to have to reduce our medicare spending. and at the center for american progress, we put out a report two weeks ago, just after the election, about how to get $385 billion saved. i think that has helped explain where the cuts would come from. >> is it all on the providers side or is some of it on the beneficiary side? >> some of it's on the beneficiary side because we do want to have wealthier medicare recipients pay more for their part "b" benefits. but i think separate from that, we also need to think about changing the system. and i would say each player needs to change. first, on the doctor side, we definitely -- or the hospital side. we definitely nee
so apparently the whole paul ryan is the devil thing didn't latch on. but what do we do now to keep medicare -- you know, you watch the show. we talk about it all the time. how do we make medicare stronger? how do we keep it going? how do we stop it from bankrupting? >> so i think that there are, as we go forward, there are going to have to be two things that people do. the first thing is we are going to have to reduce our medicare spending. and at the center for american progress, we put...
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paul ryan passed two years of budgets to deal with -- >> not fiscal cliff. >> republicans have plenty of plans on the table in terms of tax reform and entitlement reform and spending reform all of which we need to do. this conversation assumes the president doesn't want to go over the fiscal cliff. i disagree. i think he does. i think he wants all the tax rates to go up. you can argue the politics of this. he needs revenue to come in. he wants more spending, not less. wants 1.2 trillion dollars in defense cuts because he wants to cut the military and wants an unlimited credit card in terms being allowed unilaterally to raise the debt limit. he wants all of these things and he knows he will not get blamed for it. the republicans will get blamed for it no matter what happens. the gop will get blamed for it because the mia is protective the president. he has nothing to lose, jon. he is willing to go over the cliff. >> i think what he is say take us over the cliff and vote with the democrats and dare republicans not vote it for 90% of the americans wouldn't be affected by top two tax rate
paul ryan passed two years of budgets to deal with -- >> not fiscal cliff. >> republicans have plenty of plans on the table in terms of tax reform and entitlement reform and spending reform all of which we need to do. this conversation assumes the president doesn't want to go over the fiscal cliff. i disagree. i think he does. i think he wants all the tax rates to go up. you can argue the politics of this. he needs revenue to come in. he wants more spending, not less. wants 1.2...
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. >> you also have a lot of people talking about whether people like paul ryan and mitch mcconnell are looking at how they approach this in terms of the next presidential race. we'll talk about that on another day. karen and john, thanks to both of you. >> thanks. >>> also making news this morning, in just about half an hour, the supreme court is expected to announce whether it will take up two same-sex marriage cases. the justices are behind closed doors right now discussing the challenges to the defense of marriage act which several federal courts have found unconstitutional. they're also expected to talk about prop 8 which is cal kl's ban on same-sex marriage. >>> that woman who was attacked and disfigured by a chimp in connecticut is settling with the animal owner's estate. remember charla nash? she's going to get about $4 million. her lawsuit originally asked for $50 million. the chimp's owner died in 2010. nash had to undergo a face transplant because of that attack. >>> we're learning who holds the two winning tickets for the powerball jackpot. in missouri, officials say cindy a
. >> you also have a lot of people talking about whether people like paul ryan and mitch mcconnell are looking at how they approach this in terms of the next presidential race. we'll talk about that on another day. karen and john, thanks to both of you. >> thanks. >>> also making news this morning, in just about half an hour, the supreme court is expected to announce whether it will take up two same-sex marriage cases. the justices are behind closed doors right now...
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you are never going to get michelle bachmann paul ryan god bless america. for all of the other ones moderate republicans and those are like, wait a second. i am going to be in a tough primary fight. in the mid-term election, going to be in the mid-term fight against a democratic candidate. they are going to have to come to the middle. i think there is also, new republicans republicans, you know, in the united states congress like the bob corker's of this world, pat tumis whom say let's get something done because if we don't, it will be unpopular and we will get nothing done. >> the question is whether john boehner is going to be able to get that vote of the tea party members of the house. so far, what i find disgusting, if the republicans could have made this deal six months ago because they were so cocky. they figured they were going to knock obama out, it was going to be a different world. right? so they went home and said we will wait for the election. and let the people decide. we will be in charge after this eriction. guess what. >> that's what they di
you are never going to get michelle bachmann paul ryan god bless america. for all of the other ones moderate republicans and those are like, wait a second. i am going to be in a tough primary fight. in the mid-term election, going to be in the mid-term fight against a democratic candidate. they are going to have to come to the middle. i think there is also, new republicans republicans, you know, in the united states congress like the bob corker's of this world, pat tumis whom say let's get...
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ryan. call it about the path to prosperity because for the first time in my lifetime, this congress got serious about making the tough choices necessary to get us out of these record-setting deficits. and that's so important because i get so tired, mr. speaker, as i know you do, too, pointing the finger. it's his fault, it's their fault, this budget is not about blame. this budget is about solutions. that distinguishes us, particularly in this fiscal cliff debate, from the white house and from the senate which continue to talk in broad platitudes but have failed to lay out the difficult, difficult line by line explanation of what their proposal would be to solve these problems. we did that in our budget, mr. speaker, and it was hard. there's a reason the united states senate has not passed a budget, mr. speaker, in almost four years, and it's because it's hard. budget is a statement of your values. it's a statement of your values. we confiscate all of this money in tax revenue from the amer
ryan. call it about the path to prosperity because for the first time in my lifetime, this congress got serious about making the tough choices necessary to get us out of these record-setting deficits. and that's so important because i get so tired, mr. speaker, as i know you do, too, pointing the finger. it's his fault, it's their fault, this budget is not about blame. this budget is about solutions. that distinguishes us, particularly in this fiscal cliff debate, from the white house and from...
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. >> even though -- even the paul ryan plan on medicare doesn't really take effect for years down the road. do you want something more immediate? >> i think the debt crisis that will be faced requires us to make serious decisions, and it requires us to make those decisions now. thank you all. >> house speaker john boehner essentially painting a rather pessimistic picture about negotiations going on at the white house, and with the president over avoiding the fiscal cliff saying the highlights here that there is a stalemate, saying that this was not political posturing. also saying that the white house offer was not a serious proposal, which is not considered a serious proposal, and, finally, that he says we are almost nowhere when it comes to the talks on the fiscal cliff. we can have more details on just where they are. you've got 32 days or so before the possibility of these tax increases, as well as spending cuts to go into effect, and it is high stakes diplomacy, political posturing, as well as serious economic questions in terms of how this is going to impact all of us in the com
. >> even though -- even the paul ryan plan on medicare doesn't really take effect for years down the road. do you want something more immediate? >> i think the debt crisis that will be faced requires us to make serious decisions, and it requires us to make those decisions now. thank you all. >> house speaker john boehner essentially painting a rather pessimistic picture about negotiations going on at the white house, and with the president over avoiding the fiscal cliff...
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. >> even the paul ryan plan on medicare doesn't really take effect for years down the road. do you want something more immediate? >> i think the debt crisis that we face requires us to make serious decisions and it requires us to make those decisions now. thank you. >> those remarks from house speaker john boehner. and more about the fiscal cliff negotiations with house majority leader eric kantor. >> what was your reaction? >> you know, i think we have said that offer is not a serious offer. all of a sudden they're asking for $1.6 trillion in tax hikes and nowhere near that number in spending reforms. and what we've always said is we want to fix the problem. we want to make sure that we get a hand on these unfunded obligations connected with the into itment programs. we want to start the spending problem so we can then go about trying to manage down the debt and deaf sifment and we don't want to aggravate a struggling economy. we want to get people back to work, which is why again, we take the position that raising tax rates is absolutely not something that helps get people
. >> even the paul ryan plan on medicare doesn't really take effect for years down the road. do you want something more immediate? >> i think the debt crisis that we face requires us to make serious decisions and it requires us to make those decisions now. thank you. >> those remarks from house speaker john boehner. and more about the fiscal cliff negotiations with house majority leader eric kantor. >> what was your reaction? >> you know, i think we have said that...